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What effect has the introduction of Digital recording technologies had?

A positive one
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A negative one
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Both positive and negative effects
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Post by Troy Destroy » Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:33 pm

Gday everyone,

This is for a report I have to write for uni. I want to know your opinions on the effects of digital recording equipment, methods and digital mediums such as mp3 etc. on the music industry and musicians. Do you think it has been a positive development or a negative one? Or a bit of both. If you vote, I would appreciate a post explaining your views. Also if you post and don't want me to quote you in my assignment please let me know. Serious posts please guys, if you need to take the piss, green text please. 8-)

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Post by lonerstoner » Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:55 pm

I voted both. I don't mind if you quote me.

I think it is a positive development in so far as there is increased affordability and accessibility of recording technologies, this is also a negative. I appreciate that it's much simpler and more straight forward for me to record something than it was a few years ago and it's cheaper. However, I feel that same ease of use can result in sub-standard production and just crap music - making things easier doesn't always result in making them better. I've heard a few excellent albums recorded completely at home for less than $500 but I've heard a dozen horrible ones under the same circumstances. Maybe more effort needed to record would result in higher standards, maybe not.

In so far as quality is concerned I'm not fussed. I listen to a lot of albums recorded in dire circumstance. Bathory albums (to me) sound exactly the same on my CD player through expensive speakers or in MP3 or FLAC through my not so high quality headphones. However, generally I feel Mp3 and Mp4 detract too much. I'm not an audiophile but I enjoy my quality to a degree. I do not rip into FLAC - I'm not so golden eared, but ogg vorbis is my preference.

Overall I'd say the benefits outweigh the negatives. I personally enjoy more availability, as well as being able to record myself for $5. But there are negatives to the process.
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Post by Troy Destroy » Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:04 pm

Cheers. :smt023
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Post by JakePeriphery » Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:29 pm

I voted both, with the cost and ease of setting up a "home studio" these days you're able to get amazing sounding recordings at a fraction of the price. Still nothing takes the place of a skilled audio technician but it does make recording tight sounding demos for most bands a reality if they have the patience to learn about working with a particular DAW. The negative side to this is I feel now that recording at home is becoming more accessible it's going to flood the market at some point with every type of "me too" band.
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Post by RDMS » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:40 pm

Digital recording technology has given the world a cheaper, better hammer.
Sadly, not everyone has the skill to bang a nail in properly.

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Post by Troy Destroy » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:29 am

Very true mate. I think this has led to the acceptable level of skill dropping significantly.
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Post by lonerstoner » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:01 pm

I think people tend to confuse 'home' recordings with 'professional' recordings a lot.
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Post by sans2012 » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:34 pm

Troy Destroy wrote:Very true mate. I think this has led to the acceptable level of skill dropping significantly.
For sure its created a lot of mole hills between the mountains. I dont think it would be as bad if not for the internet and MP3 format.

I actually did the typical male thing and voted, then read the instructions.

I voted positive mainly from my own experience with 4 track tape recording back in the day. Whole bunch of tapes lying around, degrading over the months. Chewed tapes, that sucked. There are many positives for the enthusiast digital musician, but I wont cover those pros/cons as I'm sure your all aware.

As far as the industry goes, I still think its a positive. Given that there is more crap music/recordings being circulated - which in my opinion is the beast of the internet - It has opened up the possibilities to everyone to have a go at recording or producing music. It was specialised back in the day and only the geeky musos had the gear. Now you can run Goldwave on a Pentium2 and walk away with 20 tracks to a song. Its given everyone a whole unique range of musical styles and taste to select from as well. Its taken the cash out of the cooperate pocket which is a good thing; you dont have to spend $10000 on a demo these days. Sure you could have made a tape demo way back, but the quality these days is affordable and pretty bloody good.


Sorry Troy, I tried to write something intelligible but I'm not a miracle worker:)

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Post by guitarsatbmusic » Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:29 pm

I think everyone has said most of what can be said. At a professional level like you are studying Troy, I saw this many years ago as it became more mainstream, and I know it still exists today. It's the guy who gets a copy of ProTools, some RAM, a couple of mics, and an interface who calls himself a studio and charges clsoe to, and sometimes the same as, studios or engineers who have been in the game a long time and have amassed quality outboard gear, AND know how to use it. It dilutes the market, either drives better engineers out of the game, or into a more exclusive price point, some years ago I felt as though a premium price point was established where it wasn't really necessary, merely to differentiate by way of $$$ signs to punters the level of what service you'll get. So rather than having a sub-indudtry price point for guys just getting into the game, priced respectfully of the established and good engineers, you had them come in at the SAME price point and in doing so pushed the good guys up. It didn't make it cheaper to record for those entering studios on a budget when it should have (expect for having to pay for tape and long mixdowns and such), it actually made it more expensive for those wanting to ascertain a certain level. Since then, bearing in mind I've been out of the recording game since not long after digital became mainstream, it appears from what customers tell me that there is a lot of shit work being done for the same price as good work, so value is NOT there if that's how you take it. Considering in the days of analog there were far fewer people who could pass themselves off as halfway decent if they weren't because the expense of the gear was so high.
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Post by Troy Destroy » Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:00 pm

I handed this in ages ago, but still interesting to hear your input. I reckon Shane's spot on. Those so called engineers are producing a lot of albums that people have come to believe sound good. People no longer hear the difference between a shitty mix and a properly recorded, mixed and mastered album. So the guys at the top are really only catering to the big bands that some label is paying for.
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Post by guitarsatbmusic » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:17 pm

Oops, old thread :oops:
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Post by sans2012 » Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:27 pm

guitarsatbmusic wrote:Oops, old thread :oops:
Yeah :-)

Bad productions or recordings are to taste in some circumstances, look at Black Metal for example or DeathMagnetic.
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Post by lonerstoner » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:59 pm

..and sometimes the music is good enough for me not to care. Bathory's early albums are an excellent example.
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Post by sans2012 » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:07 pm

lonerstoner wrote:..and sometimes the music is good enough for me not to care. Bathory's early albums are an excellent example.
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Post by Troy Destroy » Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:59 pm

Some of my favourite sounding albums are roughly recorded. Tatts, early ACDC etc. But they capture the performance and the band perfectly, and that is the goal of the engineer, well it should be anyway.
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