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What people want?- an open question.

Post by Stu » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:47 pm

Hey Guys.

I wanted to open up some discussion here, call it market research..

I am really interested to hear opinions and thoughts about what really excites you guys when buying music. For my own selfish benefits with EOE I am always thinking should I release digipacks? (yes, no.. they wear easily but people like them) - Guitar picks? (does anyone care?) - Handsigned inclusions with Cd sales? ( is it Meh?). Pre order specials?
Or would people just rather buy a digital copy of an album for $5

The plan here is to form a view or use random thoughts to offer more as an artist. For me, I have never minded illegal downloading as it's never affected my paypacket - having said that, I do think artists need to give more in return for said $$$$.

With all the "nice" things, they cost. So the balance needs to be reviewed. A pack costing me $15 to produce/post is silly to look into. Especially as an independent artist.

So while I am asking for opinions, you don't have to like anything I personally do. As consumers, people that work and that have lives to pay for, it would really help me to get some insight onto what makes people want to grab a wallet and spend the hard earned.

Please, other bands and artists kick in.

P.s- heading off to tassie for a week so my responses might be a tad slow.
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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by FOT » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:17 pm

That's a good question Stu...

For me personally. I like iTunes. It's easy, it's all automatic, it syncs with my phone automatically, and I never have to worry about scratching a CD. My phone connects to my car stereo via bluetooth. Plus when I travel heaps with work, it's so easy to get new music straight to my phone when I get bored.

I guess the only thing you could do with an iTunes release, is maybe some videos that come with the album, and of course a digital copy of the booklet.

I know you have done some youtube vids for me in the past with some songs that I was learning, which is awesome and helped heaps. What if you did some really well put together, and polished vids to go along with an iTunes release? Or a documentary with contributing artists? Although, Im sure in this day and age it will end up on youtube soon after release.

Apart from that, I can't really think of much to do with a digital download.

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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by Edes01 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:05 pm

I love albums that come with DVD's or video content from iTunes.

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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by VVolverin3 » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:30 pm

I still love buying CDs. I rip them all to my laptop as soon as I get 'em, but I still love owning them.

As for what to get - I love interesting CD booklets. With all the usual stuff + cool artwork, song lyrics, something thematic or whatever I dunno! Also getting a bonus disc with behind the scenes videos or music videos or live tracks or something is usually pretty cool.
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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by Stu » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:11 am

Thanks guys, keep em coming.

How does the digipack over standard jewel case rate?
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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by flames » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:13 am

I get all my music through cd's, and if its an artist i like, i try to purchase limited edition versions of the albums for bonus material. In particular i like to see\hear live songs, or even some videos of the band in the studio (this gives you some understanding of how the songs came about, was written etc etc). Dont really care to hear demo versions of songs though.

Love the digipacks mate, as you mentioned they do wear abit, but all in all i think its a neater package.

Artwork is always important, from the first glance you can get an insight into what the band might sound like (eg. power metal album artwork is usually extremely different to say, death metal album artwork).

And the credits section at the end of the album booklet! its great to see an artist's fellow musicians and people who have inspired them (this has helped me find so much music over the past few year).

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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by Edes01 » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:17 am

The content I like to see is:

Gear rundown
Recording behind the scenes
Sometimes the odd guitar lesson doesn't go astray.
Member interviews/biography
Live footage

If one is available I will always buy the version that comes with a DVD. Usually we're only talking about $5-$6 difference in value.

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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by ShockMe.au » Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:05 pm

VVolverin3 wrote:I still love buying CDs. I rip them all to my laptop as soon as I get 'em, but I still love owning them.

As for what to get - I love interesting CD booklets. With all the usual stuff + cool artwork, song lyrics, something thematic or whatever I dunno! Also getting a bonus disc with behind the scenes videos or music videos or live tracks or something is usually pretty cool.
Me too, something about reading the entire booklet whilst listening for the first time.
I like any bonus, I have a signed EoE (or 2) poster so picks or what ever is a cool addition.
I don't buy from itunes much as the kids always spend my itunes account, although I did buy the EoE Christmas song for cancer. I really only get CD's I cannot find on itunes.
I am gonna buy it anyway so it doesn't really matter.....
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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by Stu » Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:42 am

Check that on the footage. I got ya. This stuff is really easy to include, even if for free on youtube.
Guys I really appreciate the feedback.
Knowing some of the lables in Europe and a few guys working there, I can tell you the next 5 years will be very interesting with the industry. It's obviously no secret but the recording industry is really going down the tubes.
Pro recording studios are gonna suffer next which is a real shame.

Adapt or die I say ;-)
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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by M2k » Mon Feb 06, 2012 1:31 pm

I like too with digi packs you get a code that allows you to download demo files and bootleg concert footage
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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by Damo » Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:08 pm

Digipacks/Limited Editions if i can buy them.
I ALWAYS love behind the scenes studio footage, i love seeing musicians work (especially since i want to work with them one day, call it market research of my own ;)).
Live songs/live playing footage is always cool.
i have started a nice guitar pic collection, so that never goes astray.

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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by FOT » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:45 pm

You're more than welcome to start adapting with my shiny new Axe-FX II, Stu.

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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by indra13 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:21 am

Cannot stand Digipaks. They don't fit in my CD tower slots. I'll only buy Digipaks if I know I'm getting something good in return: Live footage, backstage, 'Making Of' docos, Gear rundown etc.
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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by Stu » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:04 am

Mr Fot, my problem with using other gear is that I tend to fall in love with stuff that is awesome,, and need to own it. From what I am seeing the Axe units are not easy to obtain.

Overall guys I am seeing some avenues for bonus video footage. For me it's really easy and dealing with 8-12 singers per album might be fairly interesting. I'll get onto it ;-).

I tell you, I walk into JB all the time scratching the chin going how the hell does anyone get a cd known here without the crazy web and print promotional costs? - one of the reasons for the old digipack comments. Indra, as you'll be doing the art layout of almost everything I ever do ;-) I'll be chatting more bro.
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Re: What people want?- an open question.

Post by indra13 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:00 pm

No worries Stu :-D Whenever you're ready!
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